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Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

Word — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:40:54 -0000

1. Not a drop to markets until 2016.
2. Total ANWR impact is estimated at 1.2% on the high end, of global oil markets.
3. OPEC will simply cut production to negate any positive effect the next day.
4. Solar doesn't destroy our environment.
5. 735,000 people working in the ANWR, will most definitely fuck it up.

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

Mark Lanio — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:30:28 -0000

Granted, it is a necessary first step. You know what though? I think getting anyone, Republican or Democrat to take ANY first step is really the hardest battle we face. That's my disheartened reaction to this. I've heard these and many other well-thought out reasoned plans on fixing this. Being well-thought out and reasoned, I think they may stand little chance of ever happening with our current crop of pandering yahoos in congress. Not to sound cynical or anything.

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

jainphx — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:55:23 -0000

What I find most disconcerting is Mexico has just hit a very large find of oil in the Gulf of Mexico,and Cuba is begining to drill 45 miles off their coast,which means thats 45 miles off of our coast. Yet enviromentalist stop us from drilling any where in the gulf. Common sense does not seem to be our long suit.

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

MsUnderestimated — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:26:32 -0000

Mark:

Just reading this "We are at 8 year supply highs," I have to respond.

Yes, we are producing a lot of oil, but if you'll look at the documentation from the post before this one, you'll see consumption from other industrialized nations has screamed up to the top! We're not the only ones using it.

Ms. U

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

MsUnderestimated — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:56:48 -0000

Mark:

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I added a P.S. to it today. Jaiphx is right... it is a journey of a thousand miles, but if we don't start no that journey now, we'll never get "there." ANWR is a start. After all, that section of ANWR was set aside specifically for oil drilling when it was laid out.

The thing that bothers me most about this whole thing is this - this is like trying to get a horse fat for pasture in the winter by feeding it in the fall. You HAVE to start feeding it the spring or summer before so that the horse can have enough built UP before winter strikes.

I blame the enviro-whackos for this problem, and the politicos, both left and right, for pandering to the bunny-hugging base.

Ms. U.

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

jainphx — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:35:11 -0000

A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step.ANWR is that first step with out it the journey never begins.

Re: The Case for ANWR - From Native Inupiat Eskimos

Mark Lanio — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:57:17 -0000

Not going to try to refute your ANWR arguement, because any new domestic sources make sense. But do you think this will in any way be more than a band-aid on our overall energy problem? Too often I see ANWR being shown as the solution when it is really just one prong of a multifaceted solution that needs to happen. We are at 8 year supply highs. So oil inventory is not the problem. Granted, having the inventory in beheading-intensive places does cause speculators to worry, but Katrina had nothing to do with crude problems, it was refininery problems. We have to shut down the refineries twice a year to "retool" for the varieties of reformulated gas for environmental reasons. The only environment these formulas actully affect is economic. The lack of being able to build refineries is an even more worrisome problem. We are over 95% capacity last I saw. One fire or accident at a refinery and we are screwed for months. Don't even get me started on the confiscatory gas taxes which are insane.

Don't get me wrong, ANWR is a necessary part of fixing the energy problem, but it is only ONE part, and not the biggest by a long shot, in my estimation.