MsUnderestimated - Latest Comments in Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

eyeswideopen — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 01:25:42 -0000

We are all humans, are we not?

It's time we stopped allowing the PC police to try to make as act non-human.

Stereotying is a part of human nature. Actually, it's a part of any species nature. If I were to be bitten by 7 dogs of the same breed, you can damn well believe that my sense of self-preservation would cause me to not only avoid all dogs of that breed, but to feel fine refusing food, water and shelter to said dogs. To feel no compassion for any plight of said dogs. And to want said dogs out of my environment.

People in this country are sick, tired and fed up with the sub-culture of crime, entitlement-minded laziness, racism, and thugery that blacks have allowed to flourish in their communities. That culture has ruined our schools, our neighborhoods, our towns, and our nation. And we aren't going to take it anymore. You can take your cliches of "racists", "Nazis", and whatever other worthless taunts you choose to utter back to the PC playground where they belong. We no longer shudder in fear at the thought of being called those names. Your continued condoning of the criminal and entitlement-minded behavior of this culture has numbed us to it and caused your words to be nothing more than smoke that we wave away.

A good man choose to make his living protecting others. He was killed by one of these thugs you want to defend and protect. And you think we should feel sorry for the thug? Get real.

Despite the ever increasing sub-culture of crime in the black community, people of all races all over the nation took in these people after Katrina...knowing the risks. But those risks turned out to be valid, and it won't happen again, I can promise you that. The next time a hurricane hits in a predominately black community, the residents of that community are going to find wallets and doors closed to them. They are going to find compassion lacking, and tolerance low. They will find their whining about "what they are owned" falling on deaf ears.

And perhaps then, they will finally learn. They will learn that the rest of the world helps those who help themselves. They will learn that the rest of the world recognizes that lack of money has nothing to do with making the right moral decisions. (Money doesn't heal the criminal black element...the rap industry has proven that to us.) They will learn that Americans have great capacity for helping our fellow man...but very little for helping selfish, self-centered people. They will learn that you do not bite the hand that feeds you...especially when that hand has been feeding you free-of-charge for some time, with no sign of appreciation on your part.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Sixer70 — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:25:57 -0000

tim,

my mom is mexican you dimwit.

and please explain to me how being aware and not particularly liking blacks makes me racist?

why do you allow the free pass to blacks that hate whites?

have you ever been to the Bayou Classic in New Orleans?

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Tim — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:49:54 -0000

sixer70:

i just hope the rest of the country and world can now start to see that “stereotyping” and be very wary of these blacks isnt a “racist” thing like the South is always portrayed as being.

these animals are moving around the country now and showing what we in the South have known from birth, you CANNOT trust blacks, period.

wow. please just admit that you're racist. embrace it. embrace the hate. you'll feel a lot better, and the rest of us will know you for the pathetic, hate-filled, backwoods redneck that you are. it will be a liberating experience. and then you can go out and get you some new duds. what are your hood and cape sizes?

i hope your daughter gets knocked up by a black or mexican fella.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Trailfoot — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:16:30 -0000

I love how people keep saying it was the state and local governments' jobs to handle the emergency.

Oh, really? Then just whose was it?

California might have the money to handle a situation like this. Louisiana? Small, poor, and undereducated.

And that is the fault of whom? Is the federal government just supposed to give a "small, poor and undereducated" state money, just because of that?

The federal government has a disaster-management agency for a reason - because the federal government is the only power with the resources to handle things of this scope.

No, you are wrong. I lived in Oklahoma City when the Murrah Bldg. was bombed. Local police & firefighters did the majority of the work, as did New York PD & FFs after 9/11. The feds came in AFTERWARDS to help. Do you think a small town like Oklahoma City had the money to handle their situation? Plus, do you really want the Federal Government to have first power over states' rights? Re-think all of these thoughts, Skippy.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

UpChuck — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:26:10 -0000

Come up here to Baton Rouge, Cherie. Sell your house to one of these welfare-for-lifers rolling in FEMA dough and wanderin' the streets lookin for trouble.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Cherie — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:41:31 -0000

I am a native New Orleanian, born and raised here and continue to live here with my daughter. I am completely embarrassed to say that I am from here after everything that these "evacuees" have done in every corner of America. They aren't evacuees anymore, it's been almost a year since Katrina and they don't deserve a penny more. I have always had great disdain for these type of people. I am a single mom working my ass off so that "these people" can sit at home, watch tv, drive the most expensive cars and eat steaks: to make things worse I have to watch this going on. As soon as my honey returns from Iraq I am packing up me and my daughter and moving from here. I am truly embarrassed and feel great sympathy for anyone who has to deal with the people that I have dealt with my entire life! If you want to know exactly how it is here just ask I have no reason to keep my mouth shut and take great pride in telling people just how horrible it really is here.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Elliot — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:36:52 -0000

If I was you, I'd be lashing out too. The perp is a despicable excuse for a human being. Even his sister- and here is where I think you missed something- knows who is to blame here: the justice system in Louisiana. That guys should not have been on the streets. I am from New Orleans and everyone here knows who is to blame: THE JUSTICE SYSTEM OF LOUISIANA IS TO BLAME. Not too many other states where a guy who killed and burned someone would be walking free.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Kate — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:22:29 -0000

Ms. U,

My sincere condolences to this fine officer's family...May he rest in peace and watch over y'all like an angek from above.

I just wish I was not reading some of the mean comments...I understand from where you are coming and venting your anger through your grief.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Joan — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:26:08 -0000

First of all, let me express my sympathy for not only a life, but for the life of one whose job was to protect us from the criminals roaming our streets. It is fortunate that 'Step' was able to reduce the number of 'Wanted' by one before he died.

Louisiana is a state well known for its corruption in government since the days of Huey Long many years ago. The damage done by Katrina could've been minimized had the money allotted for strengthening the levies been used to do just that. And could anyone in the government, state or city, explain where it went? And here we are in the beginning of another hurricane season and nothing has been done to prevent the same catastrophe from happening again.

And what did the citizens of New Orleans do? They elected that same mayor who remarkably survived Katrina. The responsibility of the deaths of those who didn't evacuate should not be blamed on the Federal Government. It was the responsibility of Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco to see that an attempt was made to move those people, whether they wanted to go or not, from harm's way. They failed to take control of the situation, and now tax payer dollars from the Federal Government is being handed out to those who survived. What they should be getting is job applications so they can go to work and not depend on the government to support them. The state and local governments should not be in control of any money granted for the rebuilding or the cleanup nor for making the levies stronger. That's been done, it didn't work, and why throw good money after bad?

As for not having a means of escape. why didn't someone go to the bus depot where thousands of school buses were parked and hotwire them for their escape to safety? Isn't survival one of the strongest instincts in man? Or, with the amount of advance notice these people had, they could've walked or even hitch hiked away from the path of the storm. No, they took the way of most people on welfare. They waited for a government that wasn't there for them.

The article written by Ms Underestimated on this might've been a bit strong, possibly because of her grief over the loss of a fellow officer, but her anger was understandable. If the man who killed him was already wanted for another murder, then why had he not been captured and tried? Was an incompetent police department even another weakness of the state and/or the city?

All of this could be argued back and forth for ages and probably will be, but the lesson learned from Step's death and from Katrina is clear. The state and city governments need some work, and men and women of integrity to do it.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Randy — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:50:35 -0000

I'm really sorry for your loss.

I live in New Orleans, I evacuated, and then came back. Please understand that the vast majority of New Orleanians are good people trying to get their lives back. We are down here doing our best to rebuild homes and lives where utilites like water and electricity frequently still don't work, where crime commited by both returning residents and people who came here after the storm to prey on easy targets is a continuing problems, and where the basic things other Amreicans take for granted aren't available. The first two weeks I was back I had to drive 30 minutes away just to get ice and drinkable water each day. I know that some of the Katina evacuees are horrible people -- but most aren't. As the bad ones come back here, we fall victim to them just as we were victims of the storm. Those of us here still need your help and support to make it. Please don't let the scum keep you from seeing that most of us are just trying to live day to day and we thank all of you for what you've done for us.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

panbanger — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:07:30 -0000

This is quite a webpage! All it's missing is a drawing of a bald eagle sharpening its talons whilst a single tear falls from its eye.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Trailfoot — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:58:53 -0000

To Ms.U:

Interesting article, except that you apparently only read the headline of it. The state recommended, with good reason, that the Red Cross not move in until the National Guard was in place, able to protect the supplies and see to orderly and fair distribution. The article's headline, in the grand tradition of news worldwide, is written specifically to sensationalize the story.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Trailfoot — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:55:17 -0000

Oh, also from eyewitness accounts:

The offical body counts for the storm were low. The actual number of deaths might very well have been three times what has been reported.

My father, alone, found more corpses than the 7 listed for the entire parish of St. Tammany by Wikipedia, and that is in the city of Slidell alone.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Trailfoot — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:51:02 -0000

Been to Lacombe after the hurricane.

The people who say it was hardly touched are pretty much right.

Most of what's north of I-12 suffered wind damage only. Since Katrina was only a category 3 storm when it made landfall, the wind damage was pretty much 'normal hurricane stuff', not like the catastropic flooding south of I-12.

I wouldn't lump this guy in with evacuees.

Remember: this isn't from someone who's read about the storm. It's from someone who's been there.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Choad McBlob — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:53:28 -0000

Dagnabit, Ms U, you big tool. The Red Cross isn't government! Also note that the article said the Nat'l Guard didn't go in until two days after.

The Governor has to ask for the National Guard - they can't just go in and take over a city. That's something Blanco wasn't willing to give up - control over her state.

That a big fat failure. If it had been a city of white people, the Guard would have been there before the storm was even winding down and you know it. The government failed. And you fail too.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Bill — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:58:24 -0000

Whoever authored this "blog" posting is a tool.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

UpChuck — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:32:12 -0000

Ugh, enough of the politics. It's all about black folks and white folks, not Fox News vs CNN or liberals vs conservatives.

And please...everyone has prejudices. Some are too proud/afraid/ignorant/dishonest to admit it, but it's the truth. We wanna be better, we wanna live harmoniously and not prejudge one another, we wanna see ourselves as honorable fair people, etc, but it simply will never happen.

We feel most comfortable and trusting around those who look most like us. Human instinct. Is it possible to overcome the natural distrust/discomfort of being around another race and reach out? Sure. It's not hard. But it'll never fully erase that instinctive distrust that gets ignited when shit like this officer's murder goes down.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Jules — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:05:29 -0000

The loss of an officer like Stepnowski leaves a painful void in the hearts of the people who knew him best. We have all been diminished by his passing. He gave his life in the service of his fellow man.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Muck Raker — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:31:30 -0000

Ms. U,

Hukd on fonix wurked fur u, dint it?

Can you even define what a conservative is (much less spell it)? Would you label those in power in the Republican Party conservatives? Do you get most of what you term a political ideology from Fox News?

You are an ignorant embarrassment to everyone who's ever worn a badge in service of this country. You are a coward who hides behind your lame, poorly designed web site and vacuous rhetoric masquerading for what you believe to be wit. I'm not even sure you realize that most of your "supporters" here and on Fark.com are ignorant, racist, hate-spewing scum. Furthermore, most of the people on here and on Fark who can string together complex sentences not rife with spelling or grammatical errors have done nothing but condemn you for your thinly veiled racist and hate-filled diatribe.

Muck, for the life of me, I cannot figure out where you are getting your opinion that I'm a bad speller and my grammar is poor. Can you PLEASE cite me at least one example, and cite YOUR source that I am wrong? Geez, you idiots are so small-minded, it's no wonder you can only accuse people of things they're not and revert to name-calling.

You might also learn the difference between fact and fallacy, such as the fact that the man who shot Officer Stepnowski didn't leave Louisiana until five and a half months after Katrina hit New Orleans. Say hello to Lucas Palmer when you reach the Gates of Hell, because you are no better than him.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

MsUnderestimated — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:20:05 -0000

To Trailfoot and anybody else who said the Federal Government failed those at the Superdome, I've got this for you. And, no it's not from a blog - but from a fairly liberal media outlet: CNN

Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts
Aid organization never got into New Orleans, officials say

BATON ROUGE, Louisiana (CNN) -- Louisiana officials rebuffed American Red Cross requests to enter New Orleans with relief supplies last week because of concerns over logistical difficulties, Red Cross and state officials said Thursday.

The Red Cross never launched its relief effort in the city.

The national president of the American Red Cross, Marsha Evans, first made the request to undertake the operation during a visit to the state on September 1, three days after Hurricane Katrina struck, a local Red Cross chapter official said.

Vic Howell, chief executive officer of the agency's Louisiana Capital Area Chapter, said he renewed that request the next day to Col. Jay Mayeaux, the deputy director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

"We had adequate supplies, the people and the vehicles," Howell said at a news conference in Baton Rouge. "It was the middle of a military rescue operation trying to save lives. We were asked not to go in, and we abided by that recommendation."

Mayeaux, appearing at the news conference with Howell, said he had asked the Red Cross to wait 24 hours for conditions to be "set" for the operation.

"To set up a feeding station to feed a large number of people, you need space. You need to escort the personnel into position. ... And we asked Mr. Howell, and he concurred, to wait 24 hours to go to set that in," Mayeaux said.

By Saturday, however, the point became moot because the large-scale evacuation of the city was under way, Howell and Mayeaux said.

"After that point in time ... their rescue operation was in full force, and they felt they had adequate supplies there to take care of it without (the Red Cross) being introduced into the situation," Howell said. "So we did not go directly into New Orleans."

The National Guard began moving large quantities of food, water and ice into New Orleans and other damaged areas of southeast Louisiana on Wednesday, two days after the hurricane struck and a day before the Red Cross made its request to go in, Mayeaux said.

The supplies were being delivered from Camp Beauregard, a National Guard base near Alexandria, 150 miles away, in the central part of the state.

So far, 16.4 million pounds of ice, 14.2 million quarts of water and 7.9 million ready-to-eat meals have been distributed, Mayeaux said.

In addition, food and water had also been stored before the storm at the Louisiana Superdome and other shelters, Mayeaux said. He added that guard troops also brought supplies.

Mayeaux said that state officials did "push" supplies into the distribution pipeline before requests were made and did not wait for local officials to request them.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.redcro...>

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Fred — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:07:15 -0000

Racheal it is more then just a few bad apples from NO giving your state a bad name.

For the record you are not the problem. You go to school, and are working to rebuild your home. You are doing what these leeches are not willing to do. Kudos to you. I respect you.

They are sitting in hotels paid for with yours and my tax money just waiting for the government to go fix their situation for them. They are not willing to lift a finger to help themselves and make their situation better. What money they are receiving from the gov't they aren't spending on things its meant for like diapers, food, water etc.

These people have been free to go back to their homes for a long time... GO BACK HOME FREELOADERS!!! If my tax dollars are being used fraudulently by these bottom feeders it is not only my right to question it but it is my responsibility as a taxpayer and citizen.

I am feel for them for their losses. Some of their losses go as far as multiple family members however its still no excuse for wearing out their welcome. We have been generous enough as a country helping them get back on their feet and it is time now to cut our losses and send them back home.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

MsUnderestimated — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:58:14 -0000

To Chris Fletcher: You said I didn't know the difference between critical thinkers and political mouthpieces. I do SO! Consrevatives are critical thinkers and Liberals are political mouthpieces.

See? That wasn't so hard!

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Can too — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:53:49 -0000

I think the United States is the least racist country in the world along with Canada. If you can't make it here you can't make it anywhere. For all the lefties who are snorting, think about it. Which country do you nominate as less racist? China? Mexico? India with its castes? Arab countries that refuse to grant citizenship to non-Arabs?

Secondly, it is a fact that easy welfare, well-meaning though it was has ruined the black family since the 60's in a way that slavery did not manage. Black scholars such as Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele and John McWhorter write about this and cannot be dismissed as racist, which is the unfair criticism made of any non-black who dares to say the same thing.

Welfare degrades anyone who is on it for any length of time, black, white, Native, or purple polka-dot and becomes self-perpetuating with three to four generation families on the dole, many making no visible effort to become self-sufficient through education or hard work.

Any group that thinks they are entitled to be supported by other people's labor/taxes for life and are not trying to better themselves in any way through their own efforts are naturally going to be resented. This is not racist. This is human.

Any group that disproportionately participates in crime is going to be resented. Again, this is not racist. This is "crime-ist". People do not like law-breakers who endanger us all, whatever their color.

Though the history of blacks and natives in America is tragic, it is no more so than countless other peoples around the world and across the ages. Jews suffered the Holocaust and were decimated. They picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and are among the most successful people on the planet wherever they go. Countries invaded by communist Soviet Russia who lost 30 % of their population in genocide, slow death in labour camps and displacement followed by 60 years of oppression have blossomed economically since regaining their freedom only since the 1990's! Blacks and natives would serve themselves better by following the successful templates instead of the death spiral they are in now, blaming everything in their lives on the past and others instead of taking responsibility for themselves. Many blacks and natives in America today especially under the age of 40 have suffered less than some of the immigrants who are paying taxes to support them! Where is the fairness in that?

Liberals in the universities, media and the courts are literally killing the people they think they're helping with the false kindness of Welfare. Teach people to fish i.e. do honest work, learn skills, and they develop self-respect. Give them fish, and it is never enough and they forget how to do anything for themselves. Liberal racism, the belief that blacks and natives alone cannot be expected to fend for themselves the way all other people with equally sad histories are, has brought failure and grief to the people they have patronized and infantilized. Instead of admitting this, Liberals just bull ahead and call everyone else bigots. Earth to liberals/Democrats. Your way doesn't work. Look, really look at the devastation you have helped wreak by making excuses for and having low expectations of people.

Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

UpChuck — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:07:48 -0000

LittheAsianGuy says:
July 5th, 2006 at 2:18 pm

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Re: Katrina and Other Thoughts on Personal Responsibility

Rachael — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:58:26 -0000

Are you that stupid? I don't care if your friend was shot.

(SUCH compassion from liberals!)

It's one less mouth for America to worry about, which is the mentality you're treating people from New Orleans.I have lived in New Orleans most of my life and am currently here still helping to rebuild WHILE I work on my degree in Computer Engineering from Tulane. Yes, there was some trash in our city, but no more then is in any city. If anything had happened to your home you'd be all about your friends and family starting a new somewhere else. Feel compasion for others through your hatred for the one who caused you pain. If I were your friend I would been disgraced to now know how naive and ignorant you could be. I hope you can learn that the action of one peron does not represent the whole of the community from which he lived. May god bless you.