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We know what the line of dty may bring, and God help us make it through the next shift.
My thought are with you all
Now, the plague of fear, crime, and degredation are leaving other victims on the wayside as these animals cut like a sythe through the rest of the country.
I hope you get this perp soon...I just hope this scumbag makes the wrong move as you take him down.
I almost left that part out, but remembered it at the end because "he" wasn't human. Step killed him in the shootout. THANK GOD!
Ms. U
My deepest condolences to Step's family, to all his brothers & sisters-in-arms and to you. I feel terrible whenever I hear of a police officer or soldier being killed in the line of duty. To think that they put their lives on the line every day so that I can live a free life, and yet are underpaid...and even worse...UNDERAPPRECIATED, makes is sick to my stomach.
We have more than our own fair share of low-life violent scumbags here in CA. So, here's hoping all the scumbags get theirs...here, there and all around the world where they do nothing but wreak havoc and misery, and contribute NOTHING to mankind. These minions of satan are complete wastes of air and space.
God rest Step's good soul.
When you are in the field of battle (on the streets of New Orleans or in Iraq) SHOOT FIRST. Worrying whether a bunch of bleeding heart liberals will try to make YOU into the bad guy isn't worth your life. Screw the bleeding hearts AND the bad guys. Shoot them all. They add nothing positive to our society. They only take.
God bless Step, and all the other Steps in the country who protect us every day.
Being in LE for all of my adult life I know the pain you and all of our brothers and sisters in law enforcement feel. Although his death seems senseless, he died doing what he and all the rest of us love and swore to do. It is comforting to know that he sent the turd that killed him straight to Hell.
Please accept my condolences and know my thoughts and prayers are with all of those who put in on the line every day.
I am so sorry for the loss of the man you described. The world is a darker place with the loss of each one of the men like Step. Also, I totally agree with your point about Katrina evacuees. I am from Louisiana and left as soon as college took me out of the state. There are good people who were forced to flee NOLA, but there were lots of worthless parasites too. Katrina shined a light on the roaches and now we are all looking for a big can of RAID. My adopted state, Texas, took in tens of thousands of evacuees: now we have increased crime, "gimme, gimme" attitude and no thanks for the efforts. I knew it was a bad idea from the start. I certainly don't want people to suffer inhumanely from a disaster, but where's the plan to get them off the welfare rolls of thier new homes and back working in thier "beloved" city to clean it up and make it livable again? Oh wait, that would be *work*. I wish I had a solution. I wish your friend Step hadn't had to pay so dearly.
I'm truly sorry to hear about your friend, but don't think everyone from New Orleans is a horrible person because of the actions of one. We're not all parasites, we're not all criminals, we're not all sponges off of society. Some of us just want to go back home and get life back to normal. Please make a distinction. Assholes are everywhere, not just from New Orleans.
It's a culture of decadence and while not all have had their mine warped and polluted, some have and these are dangerous animals who need to catch a hammered pair in the chest or else face a long time behind bars. It's just too bad our government is shamed into buying the malarkey these welfare pimps and their political enablers pawn off on the majority.
God bless this cop's family. I don't know you, but I feel for you.
You have obviously attempted to get on your feet and apparently have done so, just not in your home state. You and others like you who HAVE attempted to make your own way, whether successful or not, are not the element over which I'm angry.
I'm talking about those who moved to NYC and a year later, they are fighting eviction from their government-paid-for hotels by claiming NY's "Squatters Rights," and they're getting away with it. We have our own share here in GA, and when they get caught for whatever crimes they've committed (mostly rape, armed robbery, murder, assault, and fraud), they BRAG about how much money the government has given them. That money comes out of both yours and my pockets, Joe... not the government's.
A friend of mine arrested a burglary suspect last week, and when he bonded out of jail, he had a government check waiting for him. His mother, who got a check of her own, brought her son his check. Know how much they were? The mother's last check was for $9,000!!! Her son's check was for $12,000!!! They laughed at all the officers and again bragged about it. All they do is sit around doing crack cocaine, thieving, and generally creating mayhem.
You, Joe, are a welcome citizen in my town any day. This commentary was not about people such as yourself. I wish you all the best.
Ms. U
Criminals exist in every city across the country, and do not spawn in Lousiana.
It's disheartening that you had to turn a tribute to a lost police officer into a bit of hateful propoganda with broad and unfair generalizations involving Louisiana and its citizens.
Get a life, either help them out or stop bitching about them.
The underclass culture of New Orleans is notoriously criminalized AND dependent on social services. Mayor Nagin and liberal politicians created this class of people who are now killing people and criminalizing whole neighborhoods in many cities.
I'm glad we have people such as the fallen officer to protect us from the monsters Nagin and his political cohorts created. Maybe more cops would be alive today if New Orleans hadn't employed bad social engineering for so many years.
You have GOT to be kidding (if that is actually you). Aren't you the one that requested National Guard help to step the incredible rise in violence in Louisiana recently? It's not "hateful propaganda." It's FACT.
As to "criminals do not spawn in Louisiana," sure that's true. However, when a house full of rats burn down, the rats flee to the neighboring houses. There may have been a few rats in the neighbors' homes before, however per capita just jumped up. I can deal with one rat bite. I can't deal with a thousand.
The "redneck president" isn't, and wasn't tasked with controlling the disaster.
So your insults are misdirected, incorrect, and uninformed.
So, you have evidence that the perpetrator of the crime was an upstanding citzen prior to Hurricane Katrina?
that kind of thing made them all belive they were left there to die.
and they were.
till the media leaked it out.
see for yourself via fox news...
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-Colmes...
rhyme and reason.
this link works- sorry about that
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is that?
Enjoy your mayonaise life, racist. If striking out at entire population is how you want your friend to be remembered ...
http://www.archive.org/index.php
... enjoy it.
~El
Atomic Wait out now.
http://www.myspace.com/elrockwell
However, I find it repugnant that someone would turn a tribute to a fallen officer and friend into just another hateful, racist diatribe against Katrina victims. Where is your honor?
"It’s disheartening that you had to turn a tribute to a lost police officer into a bit of hateful propoganda with broad and unfair generalizations involving Louisiana and its citizens. "
Tim:
"However, I find it repugnant that someone would turn a tribute to a fallen officer and friend into just another hateful, racist diatribe against Katrina victims."
You two know each other?
If you trully are a cop you need to be off the force - now.
I am sorry for Step. You, on the other hand, are an ignorant tool. When will the people of this country, or the 25%ish of the dumbbunnies agreeing with you and cheering you on realize that?
Neva been here- too scared to come. Stay in Tulsa.
Of course N.O.'s criminal element infiltrated the surrounding states. They were talking about that fact before the first week was out. And yes, N.O. is made up of a bunch of low lifes. We're still rebuilding here and other areas and we get no press coverage nor do we want any. We had a disaster plan in place and it worked. We didn't need federal help to get our asses to higher ground and evacuate. Our plan has been in place for years and it will work again. Because we take care of ourselves.
Here is an article saying the 1st murder happened in February... well after Katrina.
http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=5103633
But you know, don't let those pesky facts get in the way.
And I'm sorry to hear about the loss of an Officer. These things should not happen to great people.
There is nothing close-minded about the comments made by Ms. Underestimated or her counterparts. Would you say that an individual who first attempts to rob someone and then when confronted by the law shoots and kills a cop is a good person? I get it! Were approaching the whole situation wrong. The fool who killed Skip was a product of the system! Its not his fault that he was morally debase. Would you have us believe that a man is not responsible for his actions? This type of thinking suits you I assume for more than once we've seen you blame your inadequacy upon others. This lack of accountability appears to be a recurrent theme amongst the electorate in Louisiana. Certainly criminals exist in every city yet no where else have I seen where those in authority are so quick to make excuses for the selfish and wanton acts of a criminal. I understand your motives. You wish to be empowered by any means necessary. That includes propogating lies and racial disharmony as long as it allows you to remain at your post. You and others like you make your living on the backs of the poor and disenfranchised, but you have no real desire to see such people raised from there squalor. How else would you be elected if such people weren't available to be manipulated. Know this! You are a steward to your position. It is for you to serve the people and make their lives better. You can feign concern all you would like but realize this: That God will bring every deed into judgement, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. (ECCL. 12:14) Sadly you have shown your true character by rebuking Ms. Underestimated. A man of reflection and wisdom would understand the tremendous loss and pain she feels at this time. As a result you would have sent your condolences instead of the personal attacks and inflammatory remarks which are to be found above. At worse you would have remained silent, resigned to the fact that God knows the truth of your heart. I shall pray for you Mayor Nagin. In addition I will keep the family and friends of Officer Stepnowski with in my prayers. May God grant you all the strength and solace to bear up under the tremendous loss that you are experiencing. Remember that the Lord is your strength and shield and that those who trust in Him with mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not grow weary, they shall walk and not faint. Skip has gone on to glory and though he must be gone for a little while you will surely see him again some day.
Aaron Taylor Clark
no, and neither did you. because that never happened. but why let facts get in the way of a good old lynching?
We'll take back our scum of the earth crackhead asshats if you trade us your still standing unflooded houses for ours. If that seems fair, shoot me an email, and I'm sure we can hook our respective representatives up.
Till then, lagniappe and laissez les bon temps roulez, cher.
no, and neither did you. because that never happened. but why let facts get in the way of a good old lynching?
Yes, it did. In the same hotel where they were housing us along with our security force and alot of residents. And who needs a lynching when you've got ex spec forces picking them off whenever they took pot shots at us?
Sorry... but those are FACTS.
That's probably the stupidest thing I've read on the internet. That and erotic stories written with a Harry Potter theme.
secondly, race should be left out of the discussion, im sure if something terrible happend in new york there would be waves of reports of those nasty NYNY refugees, to quote douglas adams " People are a problem." its just the nature of man. they want power they want money and they want to take the path of least resistance the only hope for humanity is to overcome lust for money power or other by really acting out of love for your fellow man.
Sad about the cop, fairly sure he was a good guy, people who attack those who's job it is to protect them, reguardless about the cop's competence in doing so, are no better than those who use others' personal lose for their own political gain.
Katrina is a sad event for America, the fact that misunderestimated thinks that he/she is being original and brave by taking on a stereotypically black city's disaster and then claiming that it is their 'lazyness' are the real problem is distasteful and wrong.
You are a coward unwilling to blame luck as a cause. Luck is your where you have an ax to grind, leave these other American citizens alone.
When blacks got political power after the whites fled the city, they didn't help poor blacks (not much black middle class). They just went with the political corruption that is New Orleans and lined their own pockets ($90K in a freezer). Here's two words:
"JUDGE ELLOIE"
And to "wtf" and others: You ask about "Chocolate City." Do you think I made that term up? Hell no! Mayor Nagin is the one who said NO would again be "CHOCOLATE CITY." So don't be pissed at me. I also did not say the perp was from New Orleans. I said he was from "Louisiana."
Regardless whether he was a Katrina evacuee, that matters not. I bet you anything he was getting "Katrina evacuee checks" from the government! I've seen it happen. I've seen people procure Louisiana licenses and get free stuff. I know a hotel that was infested with evacuees, and when several of the crack-dealers living there were arrested, they said all they had to do was show the clerk their Louisiana license and they got to stay "free" (i.e., on our tax dollars).
Sh00ter can vouch for me and with me. I know what I'm talking about. I know several NO police officers and have heard plenty of their stories. Sh00ter, hang in there. And if you don't leave like some of my other cop friends there are planning to do, I will pray for you. And for you idiots who seem grateful for dead cops, what would you do without us? You don't want us around until you need us, then you want to know why in the hell it took us "so long" to get to you.
And the re-election of Nagin? Insanity described is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.
Thanks, Sh00ter.. I have your six.
Ms. U
so, facts don't matter to you? you'd rather just stick to yr ignorant stereotypes? i hope you're not really a cop, for the sake of all the citizens of macon or wherever you live. if you are a cop, i hope that you're never faced with a situation where yr distaste for facts and truth doesn't lead to a wrongful conviction, or worse.
A good website, is it's still up:
www.theinterdictor.com.
Ex-spec forces who stayed behind and worked to save large company servers from destruction on Poydras St in the CBD. They kept live feed up w/ diesel gens and have a blog/photo journal.
For all of you who dont believe, go read for yourself. They were there from day 0!!!
We don't want them back!!
Ms.U
I'm willing to bet that if you took the entire population of the housing projects of ANY major city and transplanted it across the country, you would have a similar, if not worse situation.
Who is more to blame, Mayor Nagin (a relatively conservative goveroner that was on the job for three years, not nearly long enough to create a "welfare state"), or a system set up decades ago to subjugate a population and make them dependant upon the state??
Goveroner Blanco is woefully inadequate and Nagin is well out of his league, but the problem is MUCH larger than that.
All to true!
But, please feel free to keep all those NOLA scumbags. I live in northern La., but that town has been a drain on our state for years. Now that NOLA has been hosed down and most of the shit washed away, maybe she and the rest of our fine state can be a great one.
Poor brave soldier. It's sad to see someone who spends their lives defending us cut down so young.
It's also sad to see all these pro-murder comments. You armchair warriors spitting venom in ascii text would be paralyzed by a real threat.
And hating these poor folks who have lost their homes. Let's uproot one of you and hear your calls for the levelling of your neighborhood.
Sad, sad people.
BTW, in Houston, violent crime is up 35% since Katrina. My hometown, not Houston, gave Katrina evacuees free bus passes to anywhere they wanted to go. It was the best tax dollars we ever spent.
Send me your address. I'll send along some kerosine rags. Once you receive them, go ahead and tie em around your ankles. We don't want them bugs to crawl up your leg and eat your candy ass. Low lifes don't deserve leniency. It pisses me off to no end to see these retards going to strip joints, buying crack and purchasing designer purses on my dime. They aren't concerned about their houses back in NO. they are milking the system for all its worth. If you can't see that, your blind.
David
My partner/friend was killed in a SWAT operation and I will never forget Lonny Brewer, as you will never forget Step.
The parasites from Katrine have also infected California and have increased the crime and gang rate dramatically.
If Nagin wants a "chocolate city" then come and round up your animals. Your "chocolate city" is not what others want nor do we want your lying, stealing element.
RIP Step.......brother in blue.
You really really aren't very good at debating. It matters, because you said "Katrina takes another". Even thought the murder has nothing to do with Katrina Evacuees. PLUS.. you can't make broad generalizations (without sounding like a crazy person) by saying your above statement. I'm sorry, but you're too hell-bent on proving your point that you can't seem to ignore facts and can't admit your mistake. That's the difference between critial thinkers and political mouthpieces.
May bless our guys.
And the 10 commandments were written in a very specific language and 'thou shalt not kill' is actually 'thou shalt not murder'. You are completely justified to protect the lives of innocents in killing someone who would attack a child; rape and or beat up or kill a woman; etc.
I just don't understand this 'get rid of the police and hire more teachers' crap.
Christ, as a matter of fact, felt the soldier's job was a respectable one.
And it was Christ who said 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.'
Are you talking about me?
You can't be talking about me. First of all, I wasn't using semantics... I was using facts.
Second, I replied to the person above who said all cops are Nazis and should be killed, that that was the stupidest thing I've ever read. I have a lot of respect for police because they go out the door every morning and put their lives on the line for me and the members of my community. It takes guts and integrity to do that.
My arguement is that Katrina Refugees have been brought into this debate about the death of Det. Stepnowski. The Katrina refugee debate is completely redundant to the issue.
We've had 'em where I live, and the vast majority of the welfare-mentality leeches do little more than whine when their free room and board doesn't include HBO and Showtime with their cable.
I welcome the ones who are hard-working and willing to better their lives. You know, the ones who embrace the idea of taking responsibility for their actions. The rest are quite welcome to return to their "Chocolate City" (a quote from Mayor Nagin, for those of you who don't know), regardless of that rats' nest's condition. After all, they're the ones who re-elected the blame-throwing scumbag.
Hmm... come to think of it, maybe they could take some of our existing welfare leeches out of our area while they're at it. They wouldn't be missed.
May Step rest in peace. Don't tarnish his passing.
(insert sound of crickets chirping)
You see, folks... that's the big secret about us "evil Christians." We don't want to keep anyone down. (However, we don't want anyone keeping US down, either.) If anyone, regardless of race, color, gender, economic background, etc., wants to work hard and make their life better, we're all in favor of it.
Accountability. It's what's for breakfast.
Yeah, repubs swear up and down they're not racist, but it's always "welfare queen" this and "that element" that. You all would be a lot happier if you just admitted you don't like black people. We all know you don't. You're not hiding it. You're not fooling anyone. Admit you're a dumb racist, and you'll be happier.
Nagin apologizes for 'chocolate' city comments
Wednesday, January 18, 2006; Posted: 3:42 a.m. EST (08:42 GMT)
"New Orleans was a chocolate city before Katrina," said Nagin, shown here earlier this month.
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Mayor Ray Nagin on Tuesday apologized for urging residents to rebuild a "chocolate New Orleans" and saying, "You can't have New Orleans no other way.""I'm really sorry that some people took that they way they did, and that was not my intention," the mayor said. "I say everybody's welcome."Nagin added that he never should have used the term "chocolate." (Watch some reaction to the mayor's remarks -- 3:21)Across the Hurricane Katrina-ravaged city, many voiced their displeasure with the mayor's Monday remarks at a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech. One Web site even began peddling T-shirts showing Nagin with a top hat along with the caption "Willy Nagin and the Chocolate Factory." Resident Alex Gerhold called Nagin's remarks "stupid" and "pitiful." "He used the wrong dairy product to describe us. We're more Neapolitan, not chocolate," Gerhold said. "It doesn't do the city any kind of justice." Aisha Johnson said she didn't think the mayor's comments were necessarily inflammatory, just out of line. "He should have chosen his words more carefully," she said. But some residents, like Ann McKendrick, were angered. "You can't reunite a city if your comments are going to divide a city," McKendrick said. Nagin's remarks fall into a line of inappropriate statements the mayor has made, said civil rights attorney Tracie Washington. She said she is "done trying to figure out what our mayor is going to say off the cuff on any given day." "It was an unfortunate goofball statement for him to make," Washington said. "All it has really done is make the city look just a little bit more ridiculous." The mayor, who is up for re-election this year, publicly apologized for his remarks at the beginning of a Bring New Orleans Back Commission meeting. He said he was trying only to encourage many of the city's displaced poor population to return.
In an interview with CNN, Nagin said he was addressing an "unspoken thing about who's coming back, who should come back, what type of city we are going to have in the future." Before Katrina hit on August 29, the city was 67 percent African-American. "It was designed to talk to the African-American community for the most part, not only for here but throughout the country -- and to make sure that they understood that they were welcomed in this city," he said. On Monday, Nagin said God wanted New Orleans to be predominantly black and said he didn't care what the predominantly white Uptown section of the city had to say about it. "I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day," he said. "This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be."
After the statement, he insisted he wasn't being divisive. "How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about," he said. "New Orleans was a chocolate city before Katrina. It is going to be a chocolate city after. How is that divisive? It is white and black working together, coming together and making something special."
Nagin, first elected in 2002, was supposed to come up for re-election next month. However, state officials postponed the city election until April because of the disruptions caused by Katrina.
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Nagin is the one who called New Orleans "Chocolate City" if it's ok for Nagin to say it's ok for anyone to say...if you don't want to hear racist words don't use them on each other like it's part of your language that no other human being can use...TUFF...as far as Officer Stepowski I pray for him and his family. He gave his life fighting the good fight ....God Bless him.
Transcript of radio interview with New Orleans' Nagin
Friday, September 2, 2005; Posted: 2:59 p.m. EDT (18:59 GMT)
(CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin blasted the slow pace of federal and state relief efforts in an expletive-laced interview with local radio station WWL-AM.
Excerpted from the interview:
NAGIN: I don't know. I don't think so. But we called for martial law when we realized that the looting was getting out of control. And we redirected all of our police officers back to patrolling the streets. They were dead-tired from saving people, but they worked all night because we thought this thing was going to blow wide open last night. And so we redirected all of our resources, and we hold it under check. I'm not sure if we can do that another night with the current resources. And I am telling you right now: They're showing all these reports of people looting and doing all that weird stuff, and they are doing that, but people are desperate and they're trying to find food and water, the majority of them.
Now you got some knuckleheads out there, and they are taking advantage of this lawless -- this situation where, you know, we can't really control it, and they're doing some awful, awful things. But that's a small majority of the people. Most people are looking to try and survive.
And one of the things people -- nobody's talked about this. Drugs flowed in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me, and that's why we were having the escalation in murders. People don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it. You have drug addicts that are now walking around this city looking for a fix, and that's the reason why they were breaking in hospitals and drugstores. They're looking for something to take the edge off of their jones, if you will. And right now, they don't have anything to take the edge off. And they've probably found guns. So what you're seeing is drug-starving crazy addicts, drug addicts, that are wrecking havoc. And we don't have the manpower to adequately deal with it. We can only target certain sections of the city and form a perimeter around them and hope to God that we're not overrun.
It is a classic case in the fight between Good and Evil - but it comes at a cost. Today is American Independence Day, where the Good (The Amnericans) stood up to the Evil (The British Empire). It's the same then as it is now.
The British may no longer be Evil, and we Americans may be accused of no longer being the personification of Good - but the fight goes on.
May God bless Officer Step.
Asshat.
All you conservative retards should get out of this country and move to Mexico. That place must be like heaven to you. No welfare system, no environmental regulations, no minimum wage. It's everything conservatives want. So you're all leaving tomorrow, right?
Right? [crickets chirping]
Yup, thought so.
these animals are moving around the country now and showing what we in the South have known from birth, you CANNOT trust blacks, period.
Asshat.
All you conservative retards should get out of this country and move to Mexico. That place must be like heaven to you. No welfare system, no environmental regulations, no minimum wage. It’s everything conservatives want. So you’re all leaving tomorrow, right?
Right? [crickets chirping]
Yup, thought so. "
PeePee McFart
this country was strong BEFORE welfare was started. when welfare was started, it was as a hand-up, not hand-out. now welfare warriors of every race see it as a way of life and somethign that is "owed" to them.
the USA has the strictest ecological regs in the world, and that i think is a good thing.
you dems want to raise the min. wage every few years with no plan in place to pay for it. when you raise the minimum wage, that raise is passed on to consumers. then you dems biotch about prices being raised by Republicans and money grubbing business owners!
Dems have historically made these empty campaign promises and all these feel good plans with absolutely no way to enforce, regulate or bring about these measures. like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, Democrats historically keep "minority" races in subservience in order to assure their voter base.
and finally, when you Dems start losing an argument, you scream "Nazi" and start hurling insults. typical liberal behavior.....
Interesting caveat to all that. With the right combination of education and "tough love," those same welfare leeches could, in fact, be transformed into prosperous, hard-working, useful citizens. It happens, sometimes, when the liberals aren't looking.
Ms. U
You have no fucking clue, do you? Those people had no resources to get out of the way, nimrod. God, does it hurt being that stupid and clueless? Can you really not comprehend what it's like to not have two cents to rub together?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Hate speech from an apparent DeKalb County Police Officer
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:03:10 -0500
From: xxx@xy.com
To: ceo@co.dekalb.ga.us
Mr. Jones,
Please take a look at the following site:
http://www.msunderestimated.com/2006/07/02/and-...
I stumbled upon this site from a link discussing an DeKalb County Police Officer who was killed while trying to apprehend a suspect. I thought it was simply going to be another tribute to an officer fallen in the line of duty. Instead, what I witnessed was hate speech from someone who apparently is or was a member of the DeKalb County Police Department, based upon this statement from the site: "You see, Dennis was a mentor to me when I first started out on the job." The author, apparently a woman, goes on to say:
When will the good people of this country stand up and be heard, and tell the Katrina parasites from Louisiana to go home? Mr. Nagin, you owe the rest of the country more than you can ever repay. You’ve got what you wanted, a subservient welfare culture, and you had them all bussed back to vote your dumbass back into office. Now, why don’t you send those busses back to where your voters now live, and make them come back home? You and your state’s Democratic policies are what have fostered this welfare, “gimme” mentality, and the rest of us are paying a very dear price for it.
When all is said and done, Louisiana will have paid a far lesser price for the damages done by Katrina. A year after the hurricane left, the parasites from New Orleans and the surrounding parishes continue to pollute society as long as they stay away from home. They demand their “rights” to free government housing, food, money, breast implants, jewelry, designer bags, etc. The time is now to get off your damn lazy asses and get your shit together. If you don’t like it here in Georgia, or in Florida, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, or any of the other places you’ve infested, then go the hell back home. We’re THROUGH with you here! I know our crime rate has risen immeasurably, and I for one am sick of it.
Katrina parasites? Places you've infested? This sounds to me to be thinly veiled racist speech. I would hope that you and Interim Chief Marinelli would do whatever you need to do to determine if a current member of the DeKalb County Police Department is responsible for the content of this website. As a displaced New Orleanian, I am deeply offended at the characterization of hurricane evacuees in this manner. Thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
You also don't know me, so you're spinning off into a realm of which you are not sure. Good luck, Muck... you will need it. This is not hate speech, nor is it from a DeKalb Co. Officer. You're wasting your time, but have fun anyway!
Ms. U
Yeah, I know.... there was a reference to the term "Chocolate City" in the original article. However, that was a term that was used by the New Orleans mayor himself. So I'm not sure that comment, in and of itself, is enough to condemn the author as "racist." Then again, I don't have any experience in outing racists. That's a task best left to liberals.
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I can go on.
of the hurricane” bullshit.
You have no fucking clue, do you? Those people had no resources to get out of the way, nimrod. God, does it hurt being that stupid and clueless? Can you really not comprehend what it’s like to not have two cents to rub together?
Such a dignified name... NOT! What do you mean, they had no way to get away from the hurricane? They were ordered to evacuate early on, and even in later hours, worthless Nagin did NOT use the hundreds if not thousands of school buses to take people out of the area to sanctuary! But no, Mayor Nagin was afraid of angering the NO restaurant and tourism businesses, so he let everybody stay put. This falls on both the head of Nagin as well as Kathleen Blanco. Both impotent leaders who should have never been in power.
But New Oreleanins picked Nagin, and LA picked Blanco! So, they got what they deserved.
Ms. U
Rudy: And this is the fault of whom? Why are Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, and Florida already back on their feet? Because they take this stuff serious and take care of their own problems.
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The AM radio call-ins were really scary. People trapped in homes and scared to walk out into the madness. Yeah...that's my Chocolate City. Gotta love it.
I feel for you and your loss. I'm outta New Orleans and never going back, but hopefully many of New Orleans' problem children will leave your area and head back to the Big Sleazy and rechocolatize it. They can have it.
Eric Lipton
New York Times
Jun. 30, 2006 12:00 AM
WASHINGTON - Among the many superlatives associated with Hurricane Katrina can now be added this one: It produced one of the most extraordinary displays of scams, schemes and stupefying bureaucratic bungles in modern history, costing taxpayers up to $2 billion.
There is the hotel owner from Sugar Land, Texas, who has been charged with submitting $232,000 in bills for phantom victims. There are the 1,100 prison inmates across the Gulf Coast who apparently collected more than $10 million in rental and disaster-relief assistance.
There are the bureaucrats who ordered nearly half a billion dollars' worth of mobile homes that are still empty and renovations for a shelter at a former Army base in Alabama that cost about $416,000 per evacuee. advertisement
And there is the Illinois woman who tried to collect federal benefits by claiming she watched her two daughters drown in the rising New Orleans waters. In fact, prosecutors say, the children did not exist.
Fraud tally could rise
The tally of ignoble acts linked to Katrina, pulled together by the New York Times from government audits, criminal prosecutions and congressional investigations, could rise, because the inquiries are still under way. Even in Washington, a city accustomed to government bloat, these numbers are generating amazement.
"The blatant fraud, the audacity of the schemes, the scale of the waste - it is just breathtaking," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who is chairwoman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Such an outcome was feared soon after the initial Katrina relief package was passed, as officials at the Federal Emergency Management Administration and the American Red Cross acknowledged that their systems were overwhelmed and they tried to create new ones on the fly.
'Untested processes'
"We did, in fact, put into place never-before-used and untested processes," Donna Dannels, acting deputy director of recovery at FEMA, told a House panel earlier this month. "Clearly, because they were untested, they were more subject to error and fraud."
Officials in Washington say they recognized that a certain amount of fraud or improper payments is inevitable in any major disaster, because the government's primary mission is to rapidly distribute emergency aid. They typically send out excessive payments that represent 1 percent to 3 percent of the total relief distributed, money they then ask people to give back.
What was not understood until now was just how large these numbers could become.
The $2 billion estimate of fraud and waste represents nearly 11 percent of the approximately $19 billion spent by FEMA on Hurricanes Katrina and Rita as of mid-June, or about 6 percent of total money that has been obligated.
'A cash cow'
"This started off as a disaster-relief program, but it turned into a cash cow," said Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, a former federal prosecutor and now chairman of a House panel investigating Katrina waste and fraud.
The waste ranged from excessive loads of ice to higher-than-necessary costs on the multibillion-dollar debris-removal effort. Some examples are particularly stark.
The $7.9 million spent to renovate the former Fort McClellan Army base in Anniston, Ala., included fixing up a welcome center, clinic and gymnasium, scrubbing away mold and installing a protective fence between the site and a nearby firing range. But when the doors finally opened, only about 10 people showed up each night, leading FEMA to shut down the shelter within one month.
The mobile homes, costing $34,500 apiece, were supposed to provide temporary housing to hurricane victims. But after Louisiana officials balked at installing them inland, FEMA had no use for them. Nearly half of the $860 million worth of units ordered now sit at an airfield in Arkansas, where FEMA is paying about $250,000 a month simply to store them.
The most recent audit came from the Government Accountability Office, which earlier this month estimated that perhaps as much as 21 percent the $6.3 billion given directly to victims may have been improperly distributed.
"There are tools that are available to get money quickly to individuals and to get disaster-relief programs running quickly without seeing so much fraud and waste," said Gregory Kutz, managing director of the forensic audits unit at the GAO. "But it wasn't really something that FEMA put a high priority on. So it was easy to commit fraud without being detected."
Officials' fraud the worst
The most disturbing cases, said David R. Dugas, the U.S. attorney from Louisiana, who is leading a Justice Department Katrina anti-fraud task force, are those involving government officials accused of orchestrating elaborate scams.
One Louisiana Department of Labor clerk, Wayne Lawless, has been charged with issuing about 80 fraudulent disaster unemployment benefit cards in exchange for bribes of up to $300 per application. Lawless, a state contract worker, announced to one man he helped apply for Katrina benefits that he wanted to "get something out of it," the affidavit said. His lawyer did not return several messages left at his office and home for comment.
Two other men, Mitchell Kendrix of Memphis, Tenn., and Paul Nelson of Lisbon, Maine, have pleaded guilty in connection with a scheme in Mississippi in which Kendrix, a representative for the Army Corps of Engineers, took $100 bribes in exchange for approving phantom loads of hurricane debris delivered by Nelson.
In New Orleans, two FEMA officials, Andrew Rose and Loyd Holliman, both of Colorado, have pleaded guilty to taking $20,000 in bribes in exchange for inflating the count on the number of meals a contractor was serving disaster workers. And a councilman in St. Tammany Parish, La., Joseph Impastato, has also been charged with trying to extort $100,000 from a debris-removal contractor. Impastato's lawyer, Karl J. Koch, said he was confident his client would be cleared of the charges.
A program set up by the American Red Cross and financed by FEMA that provided free hotel rooms to Katrina victims also resulted in extraordinary abuse and waste, investigators have found.
First, because the Red Cross did not keep track of the hundreds of thousands of recipients - they were required only to provide a ZIP code from the hurricane zone to check in for free - FEMA frequently sent rental assistance checks to people already getting free hotel rooms, the GAO found.
Lack of oversight
In turn, some hotel managers or owners, like Daniel Yeh, of Sugar Land, Texas, exploited the lack of oversight, investigators have charged, and submitted bills for empty rooms or those occupied by paying guests or employees. Yeh alone submitted $232,000 in false claims, his arrest affidavit said. His lawyer, Robert Bennett, said that Yeh is mentally incompetent and the charges should be dismissed.
And Tina Winston of Belleville, Ill., was charged this month with claiming that her two daughters had died during the flooding in New Orleans after she had watched them helplessly float away. But prosecutors said that the children never existed and that Winston was living in Illinois at the time of the storm. The public defender representing Winston did not respond to a request for comment.
Charities also were vulnerable to profiteers. In Burbank, Calif., a couple have been charged with collecting donations outside an electronics store by posing as Red Cross workers. In Bakersfield, Calif., 75 workers at a Red Cross call center, their friends and relatives, have been charged in a scheme to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of disaster relief.
335 people charged
To date, Dugas said, federal prosecutors have filed hurricane-related criminal charges against 335 individuals. That represents a record number of indictments from a single hurricane season, Justice Department officials said. Separately, Red Cross officials say they are investigating 7,100 cases of possible fraud.
Congressional investigators, meanwhile, have referred another 7,000 cases of possible fraud to prosecutors, including more than 1,000 prison inmates who collected more than $12 million in federal aid, much of it in the form of rental assistance.
Investigators also turned up one individual who had received 26 federal disaster relief payments totaling $139,000, using 13 Social Security numbers, all based on claims of damages for bogus addresses.
Thousands more people may be charged before the five-year statute of limitations on most of these crimes expires, investigators said.
R. David Paulison, the new FEMA director, said in an interview last Friday that much work has already been done to prevent such widespread fraud, including automated checks to confirm applicants' identities.
"We will be able to tell who you are, if you live where you said you do," he said.
But Collins said she has heard such promises before, including after Hurricane Frances in 2004 in which FEMA gave out millions of dollars in aid to Miami-Dade residents, even though there was little damage.
Kutz said he too is not convinced the agency is ready.
"I still don't think they fully understand the depth of the problem," he said.
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Well, thats the number they would give so the payroll budget would be highter. How many they really had? Good luck in finding that out.
Now for the ones that were really missing. There were a number of good reasons why they were missing ( not at work). Some couldn't get to work. No phone. No Police. No vehicles.
Some even left a day are two into the storm for good reasons. To find their family and find if they were safe are even alive.
Yes, the local government failed the people.
Yes, the state government failed the people (though it DID accomplish one of its major goals - contraflow worked. Those with cars WERE able to get out of the city).
Yes, the FEDERAL government failed the people.
Those in the Superdome were told to bring enough food and water for three days. That is how long it was supposed to take federal response to arrive in amounts great enough to feed or evacuate the people in the Dome. That was the promise that was made. THAT was the promise not kept.
The drivers were evacuated. Busses without drivers are rather... well, worthless, aren't they?
Nosmo King says:
July 5th, 2006 at 1:19 am
"Damn. I just started reading through the rest of this site so I could find out who this dumb bitch is and direct Muck Raker’s letter to the right person. (By the way, I’ll give $1000 to anyone who can successfully write to her superiors and get her fired from her job. That would be awesome, this dumb broad out on the streets finally learning what it’s like to be poor like the Katrina victims she hates so much.)
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This broad is an excellent example of why women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I mean, damn if I wanted to hear your fucking uninformed opinion, I’d take my **** out of your mouth, know what I mean. Now STFU, and make me a sammich!!!!"
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Dear Nosmo King -
First of all you're the one who uses loaded language. "Broad"? Are you aware it is no longer 1935?
And as for your statement that if you wanted a woman's opinion you'd take your dick out of their mouth so they could respond - I doubt that would be necessary as I believe most people are fully capable of speaking while a toothpick is in their mouth.
(Not to mention my personal opinion that if anyone were to put you in their mouth they are being paid.)
Isn't there a comic book convention somewhere you should be at? Maybe you can ask your mom for a ride. She's probably in the next room, right?
And as for your proffered $1,000 reward to find out who Ms. U's supervisors are, I feel it only fair that you inform the future recipient that it will be paid either in Star Wars action figures, several collectable CareBear lunch boxs, in meager (a soda at McDonald's) insallments...or most likely not immediately forthcoming because that's a LOT of cans to collect. Oooh, better yet, ask mom for a raise from all those backrubs. Awesome!
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And to those of you who knew Step, I am deeply saddened by the loss of your friend and colleague; know that there are many people who are standing with you in solidarity.
Sincerely,
Molly
You are ignorant and pathetic, and a disgrace to any and every badge. In addition to what I've already done, I've also contacted your web hosting company and urged them to take down your site.
Why are Alabama, Texas, and Mississippi already back on their feet? Maybe Alabama and Texas are, but the southern parts of Louisiana and Mississippi are hardly back on its feet. Why is New Orleans having such a tough time recovering from the storm? Well, perhaps it's because several feet of water flooded roughly 2/3 of the metro New Orleans area for up to a week. Thanks, Army Corps of Engineers! Virtually all of the city north of Claiborne Avenue, all of New Orleans East and all of St. Bernard Parish flooded catastrophically. I laugh at all the asshats in North Louisiana (better known as TexArkaSippi) who celebrate the destruction of New Orleans. You numbnuts fail to realize how important south Louisiana is to the economy of Louisiana and the country as a whole. Ask anyone in Baton Rouge how hard the budget has been hit by the loss of tourist and convention revenue. Additionally, south Louisiana has the fifth largest port system in the world, and the only one in America serviced by six Class 1 railroads. When you reach for that can of soup on the grocery store shelf, think about how it got there. And I think we all felt the sting at the gas pump from the temporary loss of oil refining capacity in south Louisiana.
The southern part of Mississippi, which looks like a nuclear bomb exploded offshore, is still struggling to recover from the damage done to it. The casinos, which were the lifeblood of south Mississippi, are doing their best to re-open, but many of them are still closed.
Texas and Alabama? They received glancing blows from the storm, jabs relative to the knockout blows suffered by Louisiana and Mississippi.
And all you people talking of vermin should be ashamed of yourselves. However reprehensible their actions might be, the hurricane evacuees (and I think we've already shown that Step's killer fled Louisiana months after the storm) are still human beings. Nobody asks to be born into a welfare-addicted family. Nobody asks to go to inner city schools that are crumbling and infested with roaches and rats, only to be denied the basic education needed to escape a vicious cycle of poverty. It's probably incomprehensible to the rest of us, but it's life to them.
where did you say 'race' or mention 'race'?
your whole article was racist. thx and come again my friend!!!11!eleven1!
See, that's how it works for Republicans. You want to beat up on the dirty Arabs in Iraq, so you just pretend that it's plausible they've got WMDs and there you go! You want to believe that "the terrorists" are some monolithic entity that all hate freedom and have the exact same goal...so that's the way it is! Want to believe that anyone can be a millionaire because we've all got the same opportunity? Done! Want to believe there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and grants wishes? Done...well, let's just leave religion out of it for now, OK?
But yeah. If the republicans want to believe that those in the Superdome could have just willed themselves into the nonexistent buses (even MsUnderwear suffers cognitive dissonance, lambasting the people who didn't get on the buses and then pointing out there were no buses...yeah, and it's spelled "buses." "Busses" are kisses. Sheesh.), or got into the cars they couldn't afford, or walked out of there on their own legs because they're perfectly healthy thanks to the great medical care we give our poor, then that's just how it is.
Never try to confuse a republican with "facts." They prefer truthiness.
Oh, and all those poor black people had it coming. It's their fault for being poor and black.
For anyone reading any of this who hasn't had a run-in or any personal experience with the refugees, well, you should just head over to the west side of Houston. Bring a bulletproof vest. Crime is up (by 25%). That's rape, murder, robbery. The worst of the worst came to Houston and are wrecking havoc.
No, not all the refugees are bad people, but enough of them are low-class trashy criminals. And while I think Ms. U might be a bit off on blaming Democratic policies for all the problems, she's right about them needing to go home. I'd vote for Satan if he'd send the refugees back to NOLA.
Condolences on your loss. Your friend was a hero.
What a tragic post to a tragic story!
How terrible for people to talk about people from LA or NO this way!! I'm white and live in Idaho, so I have had no experience with anyone who was affected by Katrina, but I obviously have more compassion in my pinky fingernail then this "officer" does (if she REALLY is an officer). I cannot imagine any "peace" officer talking about anyone this way, let alone Katrina sufferers! Don't you realize that people become stressed out and behave badly when something like this affects them...causing them to steal when they don't have anything left, and when No One does anything to help them out?
I'm glad any of your cop friends are leaving NO, if they are anything like you, no wonder, w/o compassion, the city is going to shit in a handbasket!
No I'm not saying its ok for them to commit crimes, but if you were black (and could hardly get a job because this country is run by white, well-to-do republicians, who are, for the most part, racist) and you were imediately ripped from home and family, and suffered thru this tragity, and YOUR governmeent didn't help at all, you'd be looking for handouts, you'd get a little crazy, and do things you NEVER thought you were capable of...you already are...aren't you?? (Acting crazy because someone close to you was killed) have some compassion...that goes for the other republicans on this board, who say we are liberals and democrats if we don't agree with this officer. I have a mind of my own, THANK GOD. I AM NOT A sheep who haS no mind of his own, and cannot disagree with ANYTHING another republican says because you have no mind of your own. Politics ... Crazy!! And for YOU of all people quoting the bible!!!! HA!! Sheep...liars...murders... Etc! Politicians are people who are furthest from God in my opinion!
And...
I find no one stupider than a lower or middle class republician as the republicans are for doing away with the middle class and giving all the money to the rich 1%! They are definately sheep!!
Thanks for hearing my opinion!
Renee
What? You don't think I was racist? Don't you remember all that code talking I did? Remember all my speeches about "welfare queens." You know when I said "welfare queen" I meant "niggers." That's why all you white people voted for me--to stick it to the darkies. Well know you've done it! Your incessant talking in code, pretending not to be racist (and I just know one of you is itching to make the uber-racist statement, "But I'm not a racist. I have a friend who is black.") but talking about "animals" and "those people" and your cute little code words that don't fool anyone, it has awakened me. I roam the earth. I demand brains, but Republican heads hold such tiny, shriveled brains that I must eat many, many of them to survive. Raaahahahahhrgggggg. I will eat you all! Bow to zombie Reagan!
when is the last time you visited or even spoke to one of the ghetto liberals?
Oh, and MsUnderestimated, you ma'am are a racist. Your kind is a dying breed for a reason, and I truly hope that you realize you're scum and retire before you shoot another African American, thinking that being black is a crime.
Why is it that the “liberals” and “democrats” of this thread are the only ones who can spell correctly and the only ones whose post is understandable?
Better check your grammar there, feelsad. You need a plural verb to go with your plural subjects. You must be a "rethuglican," by your own standards, especially since you misspelled "low-lifes" as "low-lives"...
How, if they are for the rich, and there is only 1% of them, do they always get voted for in presidential elections and such??
1% of whom? Republicans? Rich people? You could be a bit more clear, and then perhaps you might start making sense.
I guess they do a good job at saying democrats are stupid, and that we don’t support our troops, and stupid lower and middle class fall for it???? Sheep!!!!
I believe in God, and if I ever win the lottery, the first thing ill do with my money is inform the Msinformed society of the wicked ways of the republician.
Better clean your own house first, sheepy, before you clean somebody else's.
Yes, it's always sad when an officer of the law dies while trying to uphold that precious rule of law.
How terrible for people to talk about people from LA or NO this way!! I’m white and live in Idaho, so I have had no experience with anyone who was affected by Katrina, but I obviously have more compassion in my pinky fingernail then this “officer” does (if she REALLY is an officer).
So, you think that this officer is wrong? Based on what evidence (since, as you say, you have no experience with anybody who was affected by Katrina?) I don't think that compassion will protect you from criminals, by the way.
I cannot imagine any “peace” officer talking about anyone this way, let alone Katrina sufferers! Don’t you realize that people become stressed out and behave badly when something like this affects them…causing them to steal when they don’t have anything left, and when No One does anything to help them out?
Umm...what? Who exactly is the victim here? You are saying that this person had NO choice but to become a criminal, or shoot back at cops? The perpetrator of this crime wasn't fleeing from post-Katrina New Orleans, and yet you claim that he was so traumatized by the hurricane experience that he snapped? Sheesh...the altitude in Idaho must be affecting your brain.
I’m glad any of your cop friends are leaving NO, if they are anything like you, no wonder, w/o compassion, the city is going to shit in a handbasket!
No, no, no--you have it all wrong. It's the CRIMINALS who have no compassion. N.O. has some corrupt cop problems, and some racist cop problems, but cops aren't social workers, and most of the people they are up against aren't just misunderstood victims of an oppressive society.
No I’m not saying its ok for them to commit crimes, but if you were black (and could hardly get a job because this country is run by white, well-to-do republicians, who are, for the most part, racist)...
Not a bit prejudiced now, are you? I suppose you've NEVER met a well-to-do democrat, have you? And, of course, none of THEM are racist, oh, no, never...And of course it's always somebody else's fault that person X can't find a job.
...and you were imediately ripped from home and family, and suffered thru this tragity, and YOUR governmeent didn’t help at all, you’d be looking for handouts, you’d get a little crazy, and do things you NEVER thought you were capable of…you already are…aren’t you??
I believe that word is "tragedy," by the way. And you seem to be quite sure that the perpetrator was a nice young man who was just a little down on his luck. You really need to look into that a bit more...
I have a mind of my own, THANK GOD. I AM NOT A sheep who haS no mind of his own, and cannot disagree with ANYTHING another republican says because you have no mind of your own.
No, your mind is not your own. You may not realize it, but you are a lefty sheep.
I find no one stupider than a lower or middle class republician as the republicans are for doing away with the middle class and giving all the money to the rich 1%! They are definately sheep!!
I can easily find somebody more stupid...
Anyone with eyes that work can see that the criminals of New Orleans (and there were alot as we found out) were forced to find other places to wreak their havoc. Sadly they chose Georgia and poor Step ran into them. I hate scumbags. And the people posting trying to make that scumbag into a victim are scum too. It boils down to this....there is "right" and there is "wrong". Good people do right. Scumbags do wrong. And they usually do it over and over again. So good riddance to that scum POS.
My condolences to the family of this fine officer. May Step rest in peace at the right hand of God, where he can lay down his guns because there is no crime in Heaven.
Don't let these accusations of "racism" get to you. That is an indictment that is slowly -but surely- becoming less and less relevant. I have dealt with these precious NOLA "evacuees" and trust me when I say, I can feel your pain.
I am in agreement with these comments from fark.com :
I really wonder why people put this kind of inflammatory crap on the internet.
They really know how to kick someone when they're down, don't they? I find it amazing how people can pass judgement on whole groups of people because of the actions of one.
2006-07-04 01:05:20 PM AND:
What a f**king moron. His buddy gets killed by a criminal and it's all the Democrats' fault.
this has worked for them for so long because of the stigma of racism and people as a whole thriving on bad news. when someone is labled a racist, it sticks.
fortunately, that is starting to change. more and more people are starting to ignore the "racist" lable and speak the truth, which is one thing that Dems cannot and will not tolerate. truth kills Dems, simple as that.
now lable me a sheep but, i do disagree with the President and members of the Republican party on several issues. that being said, i DO agree with him on more issues than not.
i look at issues from both sides of the aisle and can't for the life of me think of many things that liberals have offered that have passed the muster of coherent thought.
...Public Transportation
And the only reason mexico is like that is all the corruption. If you want to set up the utopia you seem set upon why dont you move to Canada since they have all you crave, socialized medicine, gun control, huge welfare system.
Whoever said I was a conservative? I just hate far leftist libs who refuse to use common sense, get over your sense of self-righteousness.
Nosmo King, I ran across another person with your same ID a few years ago on another website. No Smoking came around just to stir up trouble and was banned. Even had duel identities if I remember correctly.
I went through Hugo in Charleston, I know it wasn't the same as Katrina. However, we picked up the pieces and got back to work. I spent a month working with the Red Cross passing out food and such. One of the things I remember the most was 1 woman driving up in a Jag, she looked to be around 5 - 6 months pregnant. She picked up 6 packages of newborn diapers, blankets, etc. and when questioned about the kids at home, her response was that she had none, the one she was carrying would be her first.
There are a lot of slackers looking for handouts. They will take any oportunity to exploit someones good nature. You can say what you will, but there are too many stories concerning the abuse of the relief effort and the "Katrina Debit Cards" to ignore. How many columns have been written over houses left in shambles after someone let a refugee stay for free? We had a local Church set a family up in a house and was left with a $25,000 repair bill. You're doing a great job, Brownie.
To be shipped out of your home must be terrible. You would think that there would be an internal drive in a person to go back home and attempt a fresh start no matter how difficult it may be.
I do believe that those who used aid money in a selfish materialistic fashion are wrong and as the saying goes 'What goes around comes around' but aside from those people shop owners must be held accountable as well.
I am terribly sorry that you had to go through this horrible loss just as I am sorry that people who were not prepared lost their lives as well because help came late.
If Hurricane Andrew did not teach us anything please let Katrina teach us and not ever make the same mistake again.
The "chocolate city" comment was made by Mayor Ray Nagin of New Orleans, and was a racist comment when he made it. The poster here quoting it does not become racist because she refers contemptuously to Nagin's obvious racism; that's the entire point of mentioning it that way.
Anyone here who says that the evacuees are just "down on their luck" is ignoring the increased crime rates everywhere the evacuees have gone. Although I'm sure that there are plenty of evacuees who are pure, innocent souls devoid of any hint of wrongdoing, the simple fact is that violent crime rates have jumped by up to 35% anywhere the evacuees have been hosted.
The prevailing attitude of Louisiana is also quite visible, here, I see. "Don't give 'em back." Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco have both said that; now several posters here who live in Louisiana have said it; this makes me wonder what fantasyland they live in, in which they imagine that it is the responsibility of any other state to take care of a problem that is theirs, and has its roots there.
Some of you have said that the evacuees didn't have the resources to escape; if this is true, considering that the city of New Orleans had hundreds, if not thousands, of vehicles prepared for the evacuation which their own mayor refused to use, why does the blame for this land anywhere other than squarely on the shoulders of Mayor Nagin?
I love the revisionism I see here.
I see posters here calling the author of the article a racist for quoting the Mayor of New Orleans, yet somehow the Mayor is held blameless; I see people placing the blame for the actions of criminals on anything other than the criminals; I see people here trying to pass off the incredible increase in violent crime in evacuee host cities as the work of a few individuals; and I see issues of race being brought in to muddy the waters for no reason.
Let's instead discuss facts.
What percentage of the evacuees are of what race? I don't know. Does anyone else?
Does anyone know hard numbers on what percentage of the evacuees of any given race have been arrested for violent crimes?
Does anyone know any hard facts AT ALL regarding race and crime after Katrina?
I bet you don't. I admit I don't. I DO know crime rates have jumped; that part's not open for debate, because that's what "facts" are: something that simply is, and has no value component.
I'm not sure how you can bring race into this discussion - in any fashion - without having any sort of hard numbers to discuss. All you can say is that crime is up, and it is inarguably due to the presence of the evacuees. That doesn't have a racial component; it's simply a fact.
And for anyone here who thinks that the other states should be more supportive, I suggest to you that they have hosted the evacuees, who have in many cases brought nothing positive to their hosts, for a YEAR. How much compassion do you, personally, have?
Would you enjoy it if my house burned down, and I came and lived in yours? Would you like it if I stayed for a year, made jokes about how much free stuff I was getting, and made no attempt whatsoever to rebuild my house, or find my own accommodations so as to be able to leave your house?
I submit to you that if any of you who have posted about compassion were faced with the same situation the host states have, you would have thrown the refugees out a long time ago.
"I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day," he said. "This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/nagin.city/
Now we don't. The Army Corp of Engineers, which would have been able to keep the levees together HAD THERE BEEN ENOUGH OF THEM ACTUALLY THERE and not displaced overseas, we wouldn't have this situation ever taking place, and your friend Step would still be alive. So don't have the victims here, because that hate is misplaced. Hate the ignoramus that put us all in this situation in the first place...Our Fearless Leader.
And as for rats fleeing from a condemned home...Yes, New Orleans was that condemned home. But lets think about how popular all of these home remodelling shows are nowadays. Why can't we take that sort of tack with society? Things like better funded educational systems make the basic infrastructure of poverty irrelevant. Think about the poor people that you know for a moment, if in fact you actually know any poor people. Are they smart, or are they sort of stupid? Personally, I can put a lot of the poverty stricken people I know into both categories. But I do know that the people I truly believe will never make it past being poor are the people that aren't smart enough to figure out what to do to break the cycle. And natural smarts only go so far. If a person comes across looking uneducated (possibly because of a lack of education due to underfunded schools. Hrm... Did they get left behind?) then they are going to have doors closed to them, as opposed to opened.
So throw a little money at the schools of New Orleans and wait 20 years and see what happens. I'll bet you things start looking a little better.
But wait. We're Americans. We can't wait that long. WE GOTTA HAVE IT NOW!!!! Impatience is truly going to be the death of this country.
I think that America needs to get their households in order, I would have thought after 911 that we would come together as a nation and help each other and really get a sense of what it means to be an American. We have too many people who are taking whatever they can get and to hell with everyone else. And they think society owes them. JFK was the one who said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Why is it our society doesn't reflect that anymore?
I really think it's time to get our priorities in order. If we do not, then I dread what may come as a result of our selfish/evil actions.
Please be kind to the Katrina victims, even IF one of them turned out to be a scumbag cop killer.
SLAWDOGG
The problem is the system. Stop giving them money!! They don't buy food and diaper with that money. They get cable TV and spinner wheel for their cars. I think the gov. should stop welfare and raise salary for police officers, fire fighters and teachers.
I live in Austin, TX and I was furious when the city decided to accept evacuees. Do you know how many homeless ppl we have in Austin? Why were they PAYING to get more of them?
R.I.P. Officer Step
Where is "my this, and where is my that"?? - right now!!! I've seen hard working VOLUNTEERS try to help and cursed upon to no end. It was amazing, as we thought we'd be welcomed in our effort to help out... NOT.. backfire, big time... A state away and it was all our fault... Excuse me for trying... At one point a bus pulled into a store only to have the majority mob fill it up and steal all they could. (visions of looting in NO) and now it had spread across the state lines into our communities.. A bit unsettling, wouldn't you say? Law enforcement back up had to be called in and a decision was made to not arrest, lest a riot break out.. Just send them on to a larger city for our community COULDN'T HANDLE IT, it was too unsafe... Let's just call it too damn bad, tough shit, that so many citizens that were helping developed "attitudes" when treated like dirt in their efforts to help ... To this I say -Deal with it - reality does bite... And there is nothing worse than helping someone only to realize how freaking ungrateful they are... It is this type, in this catagory that Ms U refers to.. I don't see anywhere in her statements where she refers all of NO citizens, just the uncivilized ones, which obviously was encountered in GA...
Really, there are no democrats or republicans in Chocolate City, just a long line of people with their hands out and their eyes closed, content to suckle at the government teat. It doesn't matter to them to which party their leaders pay lip service, just as long as their check comes on the first of the month. I've always been a registered Democrat, and I can't tell you how much that sort of mentality disgusts me, at the same time though, I get sick and tired of people thinking that the average Dem supports this kind of non-sense.
But, I'm getting off topic. Rest Well Step, your brothers will always remember their fallen.
Hailing from Little Rock, AR here. We have had around 34 murders this year in the city of Little Rock and all the local news can say is, "we don't know why, blah blah blah..." I remarked to several coworkers about a month ago that the reason crime was rising so high in Little Rock was because of all the human trash that blew up here from Katrina and hasn't yet left.
As a side note, there was a bus of them that stopped in my hometown (Benton, AR) right after the hurrican went through. This was after they had managed to get their $2k pre-paid FEMA debit cards. They stopped in my hometown and asked where the closest liquor store was since they knew they were close to Little Rock. Well, they were informed that they were in Saline County and that it was dry (no alcohol sales period). My brother said they got pissed about that, but that most of them just cashed out their cards at the ATM while they were there and got necessities - you know, Cigarettes, Snickers, Dr. Pepper, 2Pac CD's, stuff like that.
You need to RTFA before you try posting it to make a point.
From TFA:
Neighbors at the Atlanta-area apartment complex where he lived said Palmer fled Lacombe after Hurricane Katrina and had just gotten out of jail Thursday before the shootout.
See that part that says "Palmer fled Lacombe after Hurricane Katrina?" That means he's .. wait for it.. A HURRICANE KATRINE EVACUEE!
But you know, don’t let those pesky facts get in the way.
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Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans on Aug. 29, 2005. The criminal who killed Officer Stepnowski fled Lacombe, LA, an area 25 MILES NORTH of New Orleans that took little in the way of direct hurricane damage, after committing a murder in mid-February 2006. He did NOT flee the hurricane; he fled a murder rap FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS after the hurricane. Despite what he told people living around him, the man who killed Officer Stepnowski DID NOT FLEE HURRICANE KATRINA. Next...
taken by a no good scumbag who had no regard for public safety.
THese people come from a town that has no respect for law enforcement, and form their entire existance on how to milk the government for what they can rather than working an honest job for an honest living. Cities like atlanta, houston and all the other cities that opened their arms to these scumbag low lifes, and for what?
we watch our crime figures rise, and short of vigilante justice, we have our hands tied. THe mr chocolate mayor that went through the trouble to have people bussed back to scumville to vote should keep all these people in their own cesspool and let us have our cities back, and keep your scum in your own toilet WE DON'T WANT THEM WE DON'T NEED THEM
Maybe the next storm will finish the job the first one started
Step I hope the view from view from up there is a good one. You are deeply missed and will never be forgotten
The officers comments were strong and harsh singling out a particular race of people by calling it the choclate city assuming that blacks are the source of all crime. He is upset and rightfully so because he lost a good friend. Was he justified singling out a race of people calling them all crooks, rapists, and murderers... no. However hindsight is 20/20 and looking back at it I am sure he is sorry for his comments. It is equally racist for people to think that because he is a white law enforcement officer from the south that he is automatically racist.
The reason why attention is brought to those displaced by katrina is because the situations they bring warrant attention. They are for the most part bottom feeders who can't survive without government intervention. There have been well documented cases of people improperly using government funds to their own means not associated with survival. These discrepencies with these people have not been nationally brought to the attention of US citizens. My question is why. It is an infuriating problem for me to see money being wasted on these people. They are taking advantage of the laws in this country aimed at helping people so they can continue to get something for nothing.
Whats basically going to happen is our government will be forced to create new legislation that blocks easy access to gov't funds for people displaced by natural disasters making more paperwork and checks for people who actually need it slowing the process for them to get relief making a bad time in ones life even worse.
and i extend my heartfelt apologies to those places that allowed these cockroaches to relocate.
funny how all along we southerners have been called and thought of as racists, yet there is the proof of what we have known all along committing crimes in your cities now.
guess we can now say it isnt racism but, knowledge.
America, remember you call upon us to protect your homes, businesses, and families. We place our lives in jeopardy everyday when we place that uniform on.
Remember Us!
Praise Us!
Honor Us!
It's one less mouth for America to worry about, which is the mentality you're treating people from New Orleans.I have lived in New Orleans most of my life and am currently here still helping to rebuild WHILE I work on my degree in Computer Engineering from Tulane. Yes, there was some trash in our city, but no more then is in any city. If anything had happened to your home you'd be all about your friends and family starting a new somewhere else. Feel compasion for others through your hatred for the one who caused you pain. If I were your friend I would been disgraced to now know how naive and ignorant you could be. I hope you can learn that the action of one peron does not represent the whole of the community from which he lived. May god bless you.
July 5th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
This is the most racist and ball sucking site ever created.
Dude, how can you be serious? Here, have a look at this one...
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/
Secondly, it is a fact that easy welfare, well-meaning though it was has ruined the black family since the 60's in a way that slavery did not manage. Black scholars such as Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele and John McWhorter write about this and cannot be dismissed as racist, which is the unfair criticism made of any non-black who dares to say the same thing.
Welfare degrades anyone who is on it for any length of time, black, white, Native, or purple polka-dot and becomes self-perpetuating with three to four generation families on the dole, many making no visible effort to become self-sufficient through education or hard work.
Any group that thinks they are entitled to be supported by other people's labor/taxes for life and are not trying to better themselves in any way through their own efforts are naturally going to be resented. This is not racist. This is human.
Any group that disproportionately participates in crime is going to be resented. Again, this is not racist. This is "crime-ist". People do not like law-breakers who endanger us all, whatever their color.
Though the history of blacks and natives in America is tragic, it is no more so than countless other peoples around the world and across the ages. Jews suffered the Holocaust and were decimated. They picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and are among the most successful people on the planet wherever they go. Countries invaded by communist Soviet Russia who lost 30 % of their population in genocide, slow death in labour camps and displacement followed by 60 years of oppression have blossomed economically since regaining their freedom only since the 1990's! Blacks and natives would serve themselves better by following the successful templates instead of the death spiral they are in now, blaming everything in their lives on the past and others instead of taking responsibility for themselves. Many blacks and natives in America today especially under the age of 40 have suffered less than some of the immigrants who are paying taxes to support them! Where is the fairness in that?
Liberals in the universities, media and the courts are literally killing the people they think they're helping with the false kindness of Welfare. Teach people to fish i.e. do honest work, learn skills, and they develop self-respect. Give them fish, and it is never enough and they forget how to do anything for themselves. Liberal racism, the belief that blacks and natives alone cannot be expected to fend for themselves the way all other people with equally sad histories are, has brought failure and grief to the people they have patronized and infantilized. Instead of admitting this, Liberals just bull ahead and call everyone else bigots. Earth to liberals/Democrats. Your way doesn't work. Look, really look at the devastation you have helped wreak by making excuses for and having low expectations of people.
See? That wasn't so hard!
For the record you are not the problem. You go to school, and are working to rebuild your home. You are doing what these leeches are not willing to do. Kudos to you. I respect you.
They are sitting in hotels paid for with yours and my tax money just waiting for the government to go fix their situation for them. They are not willing to lift a finger to help themselves and make their situation better. What money they are receiving from the gov't they aren't spending on things its meant for like diapers, food, water etc.
These people have been free to go back to their homes for a long time... GO BACK HOME FREELOADERS!!! If my tax dollars are being used fraudulently by these bottom feeders it is not only my right to question it but it is my responsibility as a taxpayer and citizen.
I am feel for them for their losses. Some of their losses go as far as multiple family members however its still no excuse for wearing out their welcome. We have been generous enough as a country helping them get back on their feet and it is time now to cut our losses and send them back home.
Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts
Aid organization never got into New Orleans, officials say
BATON ROUGE, Louisiana (CNN) -- Louisiana officials rebuffed American Red Cross requests to enter New Orleans with relief supplies last week because of concerns over logistical difficulties, Red Cross and state officials said Thursday.
The Red Cross never launched its relief effort in the city.
The national president of the American Red Cross, Marsha Evans, first made the request to undertake the operation during a visit to the state on September 1, three days after Hurricane Katrina struck, a local Red Cross chapter official said.
Vic Howell, chief executive officer of the agency's Louisiana Capital Area Chapter, said he renewed that request the next day to Col. Jay Mayeaux, the deputy director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.
"We had adequate supplies, the people and the vehicles," Howell said at a news conference in Baton Rouge. "It was the middle of a military rescue operation trying to save lives. We were asked not to go in, and we abided by that recommendation."
Mayeaux, appearing at the news conference with Howell, said he had asked the Red Cross to wait 24 hours for conditions to be "set" for the operation.
"To set up a feeding station to feed a large number of people, you need space. You need to escort the personnel into position. ... And we asked Mr. Howell, and he concurred, to wait 24 hours to go to set that in," Mayeaux said.
By Saturday, however, the point became moot because the large-scale evacuation of the city was under way, Howell and Mayeaux said.
"After that point in time ... their rescue operation was in full force, and they felt they had adequate supplies there to take care of it without (the Red Cross) being introduced into the situation," Howell said. "So we did not go directly into New Orleans."
The National Guard began moving large quantities of food, water and ice into New Orleans and other damaged areas of southeast Louisiana on Wednesday, two days after the hurricane struck and a day before the Red Cross made its request to go in, Mayeaux said.
The supplies were being delivered from Camp Beauregard, a National Guard base near Alexandria, 150 miles away, in the central part of the state.
So far, 16.4 million pounds of ice, 14.2 million quarts of water and 7.9 million ready-to-eat meals have been distributed, Mayeaux said.
In addition, food and water had also been stored before the storm at the Louisiana Superdome and other shelters, Mayeaux said. He added that guard troops also brought supplies.
Mayeaux said that state officials did "push" supplies into the distribution pipeline before requests were made and did not wait for local officials to request them.
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.redcro...>
Hukd on fonix wurked fur u, dint it?
Can you even define what a conservative is (much less spell it)? Would you label those in power in the Republican Party conservatives? Do you get most of what you term a political ideology from Fox News?
You are an ignorant embarrassment to everyone who's ever worn a badge in service of this country. You are a coward who hides behind your lame, poorly designed web site and vacuous rhetoric masquerading for what you believe to be wit. I'm not even sure you realize that most of your "supporters" here and on Fark.com are ignorant, racist, hate-spewing scum. Furthermore, most of the people on here and on Fark who can string together complex sentences not rife with spelling or grammatical errors have done nothing but condemn you for your thinly veiled racist and hate-filled diatribe.
You might also learn the difference between fact and fallacy, such as the fact that the man who shot Officer Stepnowski didn't leave Louisiana until five and a half months after Katrina hit New Orleans. Say hello to Lucas Palmer when you reach the Gates of Hell, because you are no better than him.
And please...everyone has prejudices. Some are too proud/afraid/ignorant/dishonest to admit it, but it's the truth. We wanna be better, we wanna live harmoniously and not prejudge one another, we wanna see ourselves as honorable fair people, etc, but it simply will never happen.
We feel most comfortable and trusting around those who look most like us. Human instinct. Is it possible to overcome the natural distrust/discomfort of being around another race and reach out? Sure. It's not hard. But it'll never fully erase that instinctive distrust that gets ignited when shit like this officer's murder goes down.
That a big fat failure. If it had been a city of white people, the Guard would have been there before the storm was even winding down and you know it. The government failed. And you fail too.
The people who say it was hardly touched are pretty much right.
Most of what's north of I-12 suffered wind damage only. Since Katrina was only a category 3 storm when it made landfall, the wind damage was pretty much 'normal hurricane stuff', not like the catastropic flooding south of I-12.
I wouldn't lump this guy in with evacuees.
Remember: this isn't from someone who's read about the storm. It's from someone who's been there.
The offical body counts for the storm were low. The actual number of deaths might very well have been three times what has been reported.
My father, alone, found more corpses than the 7 listed for the entire parish of St. Tammany by Wikipedia, and that is in the city of Slidell alone.
Interesting article, except that you apparently only read the headline of it. The state recommended, with good reason, that the Red Cross not move in until the National Guard was in place, able to protect the supplies and see to orderly and fair distribution. The article's headline, in the grand tradition of news worldwide, is written specifically to sensationalize the story.
I live in New Orleans, I evacuated, and then came back. Please understand that the vast majority of New Orleanians are good people trying to get their lives back. We are down here doing our best to rebuild homes and lives where utilites like water and electricity frequently still don't work, where crime commited by both returning residents and people who came here after the storm to prey on easy targets is a continuing problems, and where the basic things other Amreicans take for granted aren't available. The first two weeks I was back I had to drive 30 minutes away just to get ice and drinkable water each day. I know that some of the Katina evacuees are horrible people -- but most aren't. As the bad ones come back here, we fall victim to them just as we were victims of the storm. Those of us here still need your help and support to make it. Please don't let the scum keep you from seeing that most of us are just trying to live day to day and we thank all of you for what you've done for us.
Louisiana is a state well known for its corruption in government since the days of Huey Long many years ago. The damage done by Katrina could've been minimized had the money allotted for strengthening the levies been used to do just that. And could anyone in the government, state or city, explain where it went? And here we are in the beginning of another hurricane season and nothing has been done to prevent the same catastrophe from happening again.
And what did the citizens of New Orleans do? They elected that same mayor who remarkably survived Katrina. The responsibility of the deaths of those who didn't evacuate should not be blamed on the Federal Government. It was the responsibility of Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco to see that an attempt was made to move those people, whether they wanted to go or not, from harm's way. They failed to take control of the situation, and now tax payer dollars from the Federal Government is being handed out to those who survived. What they should be getting is job applications so they can go to work and not depend on the government to support them. The state and local governments should not be in control of any money granted for the rebuilding or the cleanup nor for making the levies stronger. That's been done, it didn't work, and why throw good money after bad?
As for not having a means of escape. why didn't someone go to the bus depot where thousands of school buses were parked and hotwire them for their escape to safety? Isn't survival one of the strongest instincts in man? Or, with the amount of advance notice these people had, they could've walked or even hitch hiked away from the path of the storm. No, they took the way of most people on welfare. They waited for a government that wasn't there for them.
The article written by Ms Underestimated on this might've been a bit strong, possibly because of her grief over the loss of a fellow officer, but her anger was understandable. If the man who killed him was already wanted for another murder, then why had he not been captured and tried? Was an incompetent police department even another weakness of the state and/or the city?
All of this could be argued back and forth for ages and probably will be, but the lesson learned from Step's death and from Katrina is clear. The state and city governments need some work, and men and women of integrity to do it.
My sincere condolences to this fine officer's family...May he rest in peace and watch over y'all like an angek from above.
I just wish I was not reading some of the mean comments...I understand from where you are coming and venting your anger through your grief.
California might have the money to handle a situation like this. Louisiana? Small, poor, and undereducated.
The federal government has a disaster-management agency for a reason - because the federal government is the only power with the resources to handle things of this scope.
i just hope the rest of the country and world can now start to see that “stereotyping” and be very wary of these blacks isnt a “racist” thing like the South is always portrayed as being.
these animals are moving around the country now and showing what we in the South have known from birth, you CANNOT trust blacks, period.
wow. please just admit that you're racist. embrace it. embrace the hate. you'll feel a lot better, and the rest of us will know you for the pathetic, hate-filled, backwoods redneck that you are. it will be a liberating experience. and then you can go out and get you some new duds. what are your hood and cape sizes?
i hope your daughter gets knocked up by a black or mexican fella.
my mom is mexican you dimwit.
and please explain to me how being aware and not particularly liking blacks makes me racist?
why do you allow the free pass to blacks that hate whites?
have you ever been to the Bayou Classic in New Orleans?
It's time we stopped allowing the PC police to try to make as act non-human.
Stereotying is a part of human nature. Actually, it's a part of any species nature. If I were to be bitten by 7 dogs of the same breed, you can damn well believe that my sense of self-preservation would cause me to not only avoid all dogs of that breed, but to feel fine refusing food, water and shelter to said dogs. To feel no compassion for any plight of said dogs. And to want said dogs out of my environment.
People in this country are sick, tired and fed up with the sub-culture of crime, entitlement-minded laziness, racism, and thugery that blacks have allowed to flourish in their communities. That culture has ruined our schools, our neighborhoods, our towns, and our nation. And we aren't going to take it anymore. You can take your cliches of "racists", "Nazis", and whatever other worthless taunts you choose to utter back to the PC playground where they belong. We no longer shudder in fear at the thought of being called those names. Your continued condoning of the criminal and entitlement-minded behavior of this culture has numbed us to it and caused your words to be nothing more than smoke that we wave away.
A good man choose to make his living protecting others. He was killed by one of these thugs you want to defend and protect. And you think we should feel sorry for the thug? Get real.
Despite the ever increasing sub-culture of crime in the black community, people of all races all over the nation took in these people after Katrina...knowing the risks. But those risks turned out to be valid, and it won't happen again, I can promise you that. The next time a hurricane hits in a predominately black community, the residents of that community are going to find wallets and doors closed to them. They are going to find compassion lacking, and tolerance low. They will find their whining about "what they are owned" falling on deaf ears.
And perhaps then, they will finally learn. They will learn that the rest of the world helps those who help themselves. They will learn that the rest of the world recognizes that lack of money has nothing to do with making the right moral decisions. (Money doesn't heal the criminal black element...the rap industry has proven that to us.) They will learn that Americans have great capacity for helping our fellow man...but very little for helping selfish, self-centered people. They will learn that you do not bite the hand that feeds you...especially when that hand has been feeding you free-of-charge for some time, with no sign of appreciation on your part.